[messaging] Tor Hidden Services in (Cables, SMTorP, Pond)

Michael Rogers michael at briarproject.org
Wed Jun 18 05:33:57 PDT 2014


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On 18/06/14 12:21, Eleanor Saitta wrote:
> On 2014.06.18 00.31, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>> I was surprised by this claim as well -- my current expectation
>> is that i have *no idea* when my mail reaches the receiver's
>> mailpile (and i'm fine with that, tbh).
> 
> You do expect to know when your message reaches their MTA, and if
> you don't have a good idea of how long that's going to take
> (measured on the order of ten minute increments), email becomes an
> entirely different medium vs. how it's currently used, especially
> in business settings.

Regardless of whether people expect to know when their messages have
been delivered, I think it's indisputable that people expect that if
they come online after a message has been sent to them, they'll get
the message. They don't expect (as we found in user testing for Briar)
that the sender also needs to be online for the message to be delivered.

This is a pretty fundamental challenge for P2P messaging systems.

Cheers,
Michael
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