[messaging] Tahoe-Lafs + miniLock: A device agnostic & user friendly zero knowledge file system?
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Tue Nov 4 09:39:04 PST 2014
Git-annex does encryption for 3rd party remotes (S3, Box, etc.) .
access it from the browser), it would probably be a good option.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Ximin Luo <infinity0 at pwned.gg> wrote:
> On 04/11/14 16:53, totient at riseup.net wrote:
>> Currently, there is no zero knowledge file system that is user friendly and fully open source.
> Hi, I haven't yet read through the rest of it, but my first comment is that "zero-knowledge file system" sounds like mystical marketing terminology. I haven't heard of this term before, and only found it in reference to Spider Oak: https://spideroak.com/zero-knowledge/
> This property is already satisfied by lots of other storage systems, including Tahoe that you mentioned, and might be more clearly described as "end-to-end encrypted storage". Calling it "zero-knowledge" makes it sound like something new and special, which it isn't, and is arguably a disservice to those other projects. (It tries to gain market share via unfair means.)
> The term sounds like it is inappropriately trying to associate with the impressive-sounding nature of a "zero-knowledge proof/protocol", which (AIUI) is the original use of the term "zero-knowledge". However, end-to-end encrypted storage systems currently don't meet this property - they do authentication via signatures which are not "zero-knowledge" since it allows the verifier to prove to others that the prover/signer wrote the data. I am guessing Spider Oak is no different; they don't even mention these concepts in their definition of "zero-knowledge".
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