[messaging] Passphrase-based key mobility (was: Peerio)

Steve Weis steveweis at gmail.com
Wed Mar 4 06:44:42 PST 2015


The word list is here:
https://github.com/PeerioTechnologies/peerio-client/blob/master/src/chrome/js/miniLock/phrase.js#L41

If my script to count the words is right, it has 32731 entries.

If this phrase is supposed to be memorized, there are a lot of words in
that list that share prefixes or pronunciation. The Mnemonicode wordlist
has been curated to be prefix-free, have each word start with a unique
5-letters, and to avoid homonyms:
https://github.com/singpolyma/mnemonicode
https://github.com/mbrubeck/mnemonic.js

Downside is Mnemonicode only has 1633 words, so your phrases will be 50%
longer.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Tao Effect <contact at taoeffect.com> wrote:

> Cool! Great improvement. :)
>
> Sorry if this was mentioned somewhere already (I searched but can't find
> it): how big is the dictionary that you're using?
>
> Meaning, how many words are you picking from for each word?
>
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
> --
> Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with
> the NSA.
>
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.computer> wrote:
>
> It's now live, pushed to users! Mentioned in this blog post:
> http://blog.peerio.com/post/112534441334/the-new-peerio-simpler-more-secure
>
> Thanks, everyone, for this great discussion. You've all contributed to
> improving Peerio. :-)
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Trevor Perrin <trevp at trevp.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.computer>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > We have decided to forego with user-chosen passphrases entirely, and to
>> > stick uniquely to the miniLock model of having a CSPRNG pick a
>> high-entropy
>> > (112-bit) passphrase for users.
>>
>> Cool, sounds like a good improvement.
>>
>> Trevor
>>
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