<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">But. Suppose that Android app is malicious. For the static case, it can, I assume, impersonate you forever. How does the private secret in passports thing work?</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>It doesn't really. You could selectively reveal the expiry date too, but 10 years is an awfully long time.</div><div><br></div><div>Key revocation and rotation is hard.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Introductions are easy, while still avoiding spam: Just require a really expensive non-parallelizable proof-of-work/puzzle (e.g., 4 core-hours). (The Bill Gates proposal.)</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>
So, FYI I used to work on spam and abuse at Google, on Gmail specifically. So I've spent a lot of time thinking about and working on spam.</div><div><br></div><div>PoW based anti-spam proposals have many problems. Trevor pointed out an obvious one (CPU time is cheap and stolen CPU time even cheaper) but there's a bigger problem: it mixes up bulk mailing and spam. This is a very common mistake. Sending messages to lots of people at high speed is not inherently a problem. Sending <i>unwanted</i> mail is the problem.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Pond is sufficiently different to email that it simply doesn't have mailing lists. And perhaps a two tier system of regular email and super-duper secure email is OK, in which case Pond's model would suffice - you can always arrange an intro over regular email. But if you're feeling more ambitious and want a complete replacement for traditional email you need to start seeing spam as a distributed reputation problem rather than a "slow down bulk mail" problem.</div>
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