<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">On Sep 25, 2014, at 4:32 AM, Ben Laurie <<a href="mailto:ben@links.org">ben@links.org</a>> wrote:<div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">1. Gossip could be blocked.<br></blockquote><br>Blocking our proposed mechanism == blocking all TLS. So, it could be,<br>but it would be kinda obvious...</blockquote></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Where do you specify that blocking gossip = blocking TLS?</div><div><br></div><div>And where do you specify the details of how gossip works? Still isn't in RFC 6962...</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2. If Gossip isn't blocked, and you're able to prove failure... so what?<br>What then? The RFC is rather silent on this.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Any support with this question?</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The blockchain, on the other hand, doesn't have problem #2.<br><br>Even if MITM suddenly starts blocking all new blocks and only showing blocks<br>it creates, the node has a giant store of accurate data that the MITM cannot<br>modify. Not so with CT.<br></blockquote><br>Why not?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Because the contents of the entries in the blockchain belong to their respective owners.</div><br><blockquote type="cite">If clients want to download the whole log, they can.<br></blockquote></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Ben, according to your documentation, clients do not download whole logs, Monitors do. Monitors are not web browsers.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, you're welcome to come back at me and say that Google Chrome is going to start downloading "All The Logs!", but something tells me you're not going to do that.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div>Greg</div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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