<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">On Oct 2, 2014, at 3:25 AM, Ben Laurie <<a href="mailto:ben@links.org">ben@links.org</a>> wrote:<div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"Keys will be non-repudiable and thus it will clear after an adverse<br>event who facilitated the MITM attack."<br></blockquote><br>I still don't understand how this is true. All that "we" see is that a<br>key changed, which is a completely normal event and will be happening at<br>a rate which is probably difficult for "us" to even keep up with. All<br>"we" really have is the word of the user that something in the log is<br>inappropriate. I don't see any other real definitive "proof."<br>So what's the difference between CT and "the simple thing?" In both<br>cases, all we have is the word of the user that something they claim to<br>be amiss is amiss.<br></blockquote><br>The difference is that with CT the user whose key changes necessarily<br>becomes aware that it has changed. In "the simple thing?" only the<br>targeted user of the key is aware of this change.</blockquote><div><br></div>How is the owner of the key informed about the key change?</div><div><br></div><div>- Greg</div><div><div>
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