<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Excellent work Joe, Peter, et al! This is going to be a great go to tool for a wide number of people.<div><br></div><div>Suggestions:</div><div>- It you want the tools to improve against their competitors, it would also be useful to see/rank how implemented features get graded. If the method of securing past communications against stolen keys gets a checkmark, how well does it fair among others with that checkmark? A, B, C, D?</div><div>- I echo Ximin for sorting by platform.</div><div>- I saw PGP tools for Mac, Windows and iOS, but not Android and some others - it would be great to see OpenKeychain and Engimail on this list.</div><div>- Of course it would also be great to list the SafeSlinger Messenger. :-)</div><div><br></div><div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Mike</div><div><br></div><div>Michael W. Farb</div><div>Research Programmer, Carnegie Mellon University CyLab</div><div>M 412-965-4725 - <a href="http://www.cylab.cmu.edu/safeslinger">www.cylab.cmu.edu/safeslinger</a></div></div></div></div></div> </div> <br><div><div>On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Ximin Luo <<a href="mailto:infinity0@pwned.gg">infinity0@pwned.gg</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">On 04/11/14 16:43, Joseph Bonneau wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">First version launched today: <a href="https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard">https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard</a><br><br>This was a collaboration between tech advisers (primarily Peter Eckersley and myself) and a good team of people with experience in journalism and activism and there were necessarily some compromises made. The primary goals here were:<br><br>(a) simplicity for users (and journalists) to draw some conclusions about what's out there right now and we had to make a lot of compromises to keep things simple for end-users to understand.<br><br>(b) reasonable carrots for some of the traditional messaging apps to add security features, get audits, and publish source code.<br><br>Hopefully we will be launching a more detailed version next year with many more evaluation criteria but would be curious to hear feedback on this version from other folks working in this space.<br><br></blockquote><br>Nice!<br><br>- What determines "Featured"? It took me a while to find ChatSecure. Probably, the sort of person reading this is more interested to know "what's the most secure".<br>- Allow filtering by platform. Perhaps this could even replace "Featured".<br>- Make it more visually obvious that the columns are sortable. I only found this out by accident. I thought clicking on the columns would take me to the "explanation".<br>- Would be good if the "sort" clicking sorted "Secure" by default. At the moment it sorts "Insecure" - i.e. you have to click twice to get the secure ones at the top.<br>- Would be good if it preserved the relative ordering of previous sorts. Then I can click once on all the columns to "sort by most secure", going by the columns that I prioritise the most.<br><br>X<br><br>P.S. In the time it took me to read this, I see that dkg has also suggested ChatSecure should be in "Featured". :)<br><br>-- <br>GPG: 4096R/1318EFAC5FBBDBCE<br><a href="git://github.com/infinity0/pubkeys.git">git://github.com/infinity0/pubkeys.git</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Messaging mailing list<br>Messaging@moderncrypto.org<br>https://moderncrypto.org/mailman/listinfo/messaging<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>