<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">On Nov 5, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Joseph Bonneau <<a href="mailto:jbonneau@gmail.com">jbonneau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">The definition on the website, meaning that in normal operation keys are generated and kept at endpoints. I agree the column names as abbreviations of the more technical names in the criteria are not as clear to a technical reader. The goal was to make definitions that were easier for ordinary users to understood.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">That is a fine goal to have, but right now EFF is telling users that Apple cannot read their messages when the truth is that they can.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I hope this is corrected ASAP on the website, otherwise the message being sent to people is that it is OK to deceive people about the security of messaging apps, and I don't think that's the message the EFF wants to send.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">We don't need to do that in order to spur innovation. Doing so seems like it will have the opposite effect: that of complacency.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Kind regards,</div><div class="gmail_quote">Greg Slepak</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div></div></div></div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none;">--</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none;">Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none;"> with the NSA.</span></div></div></body></html>