[noise] Notes and thoughts from RWC2017

[Kurt Roeckx]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:18:40AM -0800, Trevor Perrin wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Kurt Roeckx <kurt at roeckx.be> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:47:35AM -0800, Trevor Perrin wrote:
> >>
> >> My main question was how to get more users.  I brought up new
> >> protocols like "DPRIVE" (DNS privacy) and NTPsec, and asked why
> >> they're looking at TLS/DTLS and not Noise.
> >
> > NTP isn't going with TLS/DTLS at all, they're designing their own
> > crypto (again).
> 
> I was thinking of Daniel Franke's "NTS" proposal, which uses the DTLS
> handshake but then does other stuff with the keys (I think):
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dfranke-nts-00

Oh, that looks at least more sane to what they were doing before,
and it looks like draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp-07 seems to
have adopted that while -06 doesn't have anything about DTLS in
it.


Kurt