<div dir="ltr">The blockchain scaling solution Lightning network is using Noise at the p2p layer <a href="http://lightning.community/release/software/lnd/lightning/2017/01/10/lightning-network-daemon-alpha-release/">http://lightning.community/release/software/lnd/lightning/2017/01/10/lightning-network-daemon-alpha-release/</a> </div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 12:00 PM Kurt Roeckx <<a href="mailto:kurt@roeckx.be">kurt@roeckx.be</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:18:40AM -0800, Trevor Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Kurt Roeckx <<a href="mailto:kurt@roeckx.be" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">kurt@roeckx.be</a>> wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:47:35AM -0800, Trevor Perrin wrote: > >> > >> My main question was how to get more users. I brought up new > >> protocols like "DPRIVE" (DNS privacy) and NTPsec, and asked why > >> they're looking at TLS/DTLS and not Noise. > > > > NTP isn't going with TLS/DTLS at all, they're designing their own > > crypto (again). > > I was thinking of Daniel Franke's "NTS" proposal, which uses the DTLS > handshake but then does other stuff with the keys (I think): > > <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dfranke-nts-00" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dfranke-nts-00</a> Oh, that looks at least more sane to what they were doing before, and it looks like draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp-07 seems to have adopted that while -06 doesn't have anything about DTLS in it. Kurt _______________________________________________ Noise mailing list <a href="mailto:Noise@moderncrypto.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">Noise@moderncrypto.org</a> <a href="https://moderncrypto.org/mailman/listinfo/noise" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://moderncrypto.org/mailman/listinfo/noise</a> </blockquote></div>