[messaging] UI problems with forced total ordering [was: Re: Minimal requirements for group chat]

Ben Laurie ben at links.org
Thu Apr 17 15:24:59 PDT 2014


On 17 April 2014 22:27, Joseph Bonneau <jbonneau at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't get why sending multiple times comes into it - you send it, it
>> gets ordered, then you display it.
>>
>> This does present a UI problem, though - your messages are not
>> displayed until some time later (I guess they can sit in a stack
>> somewhere in the meantime, tho).
>
>
> Appropriately, we had an unexpected (to me) total ordering of messages about
> totally ordering messages :-)
>
> I believe sending multiple times comes would come in if the protocol rejects
> messages which doesn't reference the most recently included message, as
> opposed to keeping them in a queue and publishing them later. Re-sending
> seems like a slight improvement because it gives clients the option of not
> re-sending if their message no longer makes sense (though most clients will
> likely be configured to re-send, as its easier).

That sounds horribly inefficient.


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