[messaging] Tor Hidden Services in (Cables, SMTorP, Pond)

[Eleanor Saitta]

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On 2014.06.18 00.31, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> I was surprised by this claim as well -- my current expectation is
> that i have *no idea* when my mail reaches the receiver's mailpile
> (and i'm fine with that, tbh).

You do expect to know when your message reaches their MTA, and if you
don't have a good idea of how long that's going to take (measured on
the order of ten minute increments), email becomes an entirely
different medium vs. how it's currently used, especially in business
settings.

> I know folks involved in heavy statistical marketing analysis and
> other forms of user tracking and "customer management" like to
> believe that they know when people open their mail, but i think
> most users actually only know that someone got their message when
> they get a reply (or a phone call about it).

This is irrelevant to our considerations.

> Eleanor, where do you see the "existing user expectations" around 
> delivery status?

"Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours"

E.

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