[noise] Notes and thoughts from RWC2017

[zaki at manian.org]

The blockchain scaling solution Lightning network is using Noise at the p2p
layer

http://lightning.community/release/software/lnd/lightning/2017/01/10/lightning-network-daemon-alpha-release/


On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 12:00 PM Kurt Roeckx <kurt at roeckx.be> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:18:40AM -0800, Trevor Perrin wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Kurt Roeckx <kurt at roeckx.be> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:47:35AM -0800, Trevor Perrin wrote:
> > >>
> > >> My main question was how to get more users.  I brought up new
> > >> protocols like "DPRIVE" (DNS privacy) and NTPsec, and asked why
> > >> they're looking at TLS/DTLS and not Noise.
> > >
> > > NTP isn't going with TLS/DTLS at all, they're designing their own
> > > crypto (again).
> >
> > I was thinking of Daniel Franke's "NTS" proposal, which uses the DTLS
> > handshake but then does other stuff with the keys (I think):
> >
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dfranke-nts-00
>
> Oh, that looks at least more sane to what they were doing before,
> and it looks like draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp-07 seems to
> have adopted that while -06 doesn't have anything about DTLS in
> it.
>
>
> Kurt
>
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