[messaging] Matrix.. is Federation at odds with Privacy?

carlo von lynX lynX at i.know.you.are.psyced.org
Thu Apr 16 10:31:26 PDT 2015

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 05:13:09PM +0300, steve at actor.im wrote:
> Federalization is required in high-latency mobile networks for providing smallest response time.

That to me sounds like the opposite of federation.

Federation requires you to go back to that one server that
has your account.. incentivating that server to run on cloud
technology so it can actually guarantee the reliability people
expect.. leading to a slippery slope to dependency on cloud
infrastructure and large company offerings. The larger the
cloud, the smaller the response times! As long as you have
your account on that ONE company's cloud network that can 
actually deliver that spdy network experience.

What you call Federalization sounds more like the open network
of Tor relays.. or an open network of GNUnet nodes.. it's
distributed, not federated. And that can be good, if done right.
Whereas after 30 years of federations gone awry I argue that
federation just can't be done right.

And no, HTTP is not a federation.

And yes, SMTP is a case of a failure of federation.

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